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Mostly for dumb historical reasons, currently justified as slightly protecting them from the government cutting their funding.

Objectively European TV licenses are just a terrible wasteful idea, basically creating an entire parallel tax collection system. Of all the important, vital things a government funds, I'm not sure why a public broadcaster should have any special insulation from the usual democratic decision making.




The UK TV license is much less tax-like than the German one. I never paid for the UK one, by the cunning and devious scheme of… never buying a TV once I moved out of my parent's home.

Now I'm in Germany, and here we have to pay for a TV license regardless of if we have a TV or not. (Also, my partner here has a TV).


lol Germany. Do you all still live off 1GB of mobile data there too?


For the very cheapest (€4.99/4 weeks) Vodafone pre-pay rate, sure, 1 GB.

The discount supermarket Lidl does 30 GB/€18.99/4 weeks.

O2 has a bunch of different "unlimited" offers with various caveats and extras at various different price points.

Now, the actual mobile network coverage? That's still all over the place, even in Berlin.


12gb/$35/month here in the states.


LIDl Talk Smart XS package, representing...


> currently justified as slightly protecting them from the government cutting their funding.

How does that work? Who sets the TV license rate? If I hate the BBC and want to eliminate their funding, and I also want to be popular, what's stopping me from eliminating the license regime altogether?


In Italy it's now a part of your energy bill, by law. Basically too many people were opting out (legitimately or not), so they made it non-negotiable: "if you have energy, you must be powering screens! Pay up!"

Meanwhile, mainstream TV (both state-run and privately owned) is more and more unwatchable, and more and more people just tune out - but they are still taxed.


You can still opt out, just fill out a declaration that you don't have a TV. It can be done online in two minutes (it must be repeated every year tho).

The difference is that before it was basically opt-in, with spotty enforcement, and as a result about 30% of the population was not paying anything. Today it requires lying on an official form, making it much more serious.




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